A review of various federated chat and social media softwares

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A review of various federated chat and social media softwares

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I've tried out a couple of federated social platforms. For chat, I've tested Matrix, Movim, and SimpleX. For social networking, I've tried out Movim (it's a social network as well), Friendica, Diaspora, Gnu Social, Pleroma, and Mastodon.

Chat platforms
SimpleX seems to provide the best privacy, but there is no web client, and you can't invite people to your channel via a link either. Instead it works with invitations, like Whatsapp. It is not viable for a bigger community.

Matrix and Movim, on the other hand, are both great. They both support a web client as well as various local clients. It's possible to sign up on both networks without giving an email address. And you can register via Tor Browser, so users can maintain their anonymity. They both aren't for the completely paranoid, though. They support end-to-end encryption (e2ee), but the metadata isn't protected. Traffic analysis can reveal who's talking to whom. But for communities they're good.

There's one bug in Matrix. When you link someone to your channel, it asks the user to register on matrix.org instead of your own server. It still grants them access. Matrix is federated after all. But matrix.org does require people to fill in an email address. You can make the email address optional on your own server, but then you have to share one link with which they register to your server, and a separate link with which they join your specific channel afterward. It's a little messy.

Matrix supports a unique Spaces feature, which is a group of related channels. Anyone can create their own channel on Movim, but they're found in one big channel list without any organization to it. Just like Matrix, Movim generates invite links that are easy to share. Channels are still end-to-end encrypted. With Matrix, the encryption is part of the protocol, while Movim encrypts messages with OMEMO.

My recommendation goes to Movim. Both of these softwares are on-par with each other, but Movim has the added bonus that it provides a complete social network, that's why.

Social media
Friendica has a buggy, spastic interface. You could be reading a post, and then suddenly the content gets shifted down because a new post appears at the top. This gives the impression that something new has just been posted, but if you scroll up, you'll see that it's a post from 7 days ago, for example, that's just randomly appearing at the top. Then a minute later, the same thing can happen. I can't imagine that every node has this issue, but it's bad enough that this happened on the random node that I tried. Not a viable option.

Diaspora is very barebones. There are no groups. Instead there are tags which nobody manages. There is no way to get an overview of tags in which people are posting, so it doesn't fascilitate content discovery. It used to have some issues with federation in the past, in that content from other nodes won't always appear in your stream. I don't know if that's fixed. Positive things about it are the clean interface, and the Aspects feature, which are user-definable groups of people with whom you can share things (much like Circles from the Google Plus days). You can have one aspects for your friends, one for family, another one for acquaintances. Useful, but it's not enough.

Pleroma is even more barebones. There are no groups. There are tags, but you can't subscribe to those. There is no content discovery beside browsing a timeline of what people in the network have said most recently. The website is lightweight, but that doesn't make for a good interface unto itself. It has the Twitter-like interface, so the stream will contain random messages from the middle of a conversation. I see no use for this software.

Gnu Social is much better. This is a mature project that formerly went under the name StatusNet. The interface is clean, that's the most important thing about it. It looks like a Web 1.0 site instead of the Javascript-heavy bloat we're used to seeing. There are various timelines: one for what your friends are sharing, one for everyone on the node, one for the entire network, among others. A really nice feature is events, which anyone can create and which are aggregated in a dedicated page. When you share a status, you can either share a link or plaintext; there is no formatting. So it really is meant for microblogging, not regular blogging. There's a dropdown list below the textbox with which you can select who you share the status with. Beside "everyone" it lists all the groups you're in, and all the people you're following. Handy! There's a user list which looks like a phone book, and, more importantly, the equivalent for groups. One important feature I'm missing is an aggregation of what's being said in all the groups you're following. Well, every group has its own RSS feed, so you can subscribe to all of them individually with your favourite feed reader and use that for to aggregate them. But only part of your userbase is going to bother doing that. RSS feeds aren't particularly popular, unfortunately. In spite of this shortcoming, Gnu Social is still a viable option.

Then there's Mastodon. I was a bit mislead about this one from my experience on Gab, which is a fork of it. That sites uses a lot of Javascript that takes forever to load. Mastodon was in fact quite snappy in spite of the Javascript, and it looks very pretty as well. It has a decent feature set which includes tags, a trending section, and direct messages, but I'm just missing proper group support where anyone can create and manager their own group. This makes it too Twitter-like: content discovery is awkward and it seems more geared toward interacting with the friends you already have. I consider this its Achilles's heel.

Last on this list is Movim. Like I've mentioned, it doubles as a social media platform. And a pretty one at that. Posts have a similar layout to blog posts, with a centred text and few distractions in the margins. They have a personal feel to them. Each post also has a separate URL that can be accessed from outside the pod. And you can save your posts as drafts. This gives it a great third use as a blogging platform.

It is this high degree of utility that makes me love this software. It's social media, blogging and chat, rolled into one. And it doesn't just provide more features, but actually does it better. Movim has group support! Anyone can create a group about any topic, and then others can discover that from a list of groups (or be invited) and submit their posts. There's an explore section where you can find recent posts, a list of groups / communities for each server on the network, and trending tags. There's only one thing that I'm missing: you can like posts and comment to posts, but for some reason you can't like comments that are attached to posts. It's a small bummer, because that tiny bit of interaction is nice. You often want to acknowledge your friend's post and let them know you chuckled, but typing a message just for that is awkward and would feel like an obligation.

Still, it's only a minor flaw. The great feature set I've described is why Movim once again takes the cake! I recommend it as an integrated, all-in-one social platform.
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Re: A review of various federated chat and social media softwares

Post: # 5078Post socks »

updooted. #BIDEN2024
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Re: A review of various federated chat and social media softwares

Post: # 5079Post Shitforbeains »

I'm helping you Larry I'm getting some momentum going on your website you're going to be the next Twitter or Facebook
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Re: A review of various federated chat and social media softwares

Post: # 5334Post ceck »

socks wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:24 am updooted. #BIDEN2024

I presume this is a joke meant to suggest that non-Twitter social networks are popular with Biden voters.
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Re: A review of various federated chat and social media softwares

Post: # 5342Post LS2 »

ceck wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:11 am I presume this is a joke meant to suggest that non-Twitter social networks are popular with Biden voters.
He's just trolling.
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Re: A review of various federated chat and social media softwares

Post: # 5454Post fschmidt »

All modern software is shit because modern scum (members of modern culture) are evil and so fundamentally incapable of making anything good.
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Re: A review of various federated chat and social media softwares

Post: # 5536Post Lucky12 »

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